Patriotism or Nationalism?

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I am glad it’s out in the open. In Charlotteville, Virginia, the monster reared it’s ugly head for all to see. We knew this was coming. Many of us have seen the warning signs, we wrote and talked about it since the beginning of the election.

They have many names for me they have only one.

White su·prem·a·cy
  1. the belief that white people are superior to those of all other races, especially the black race, and should, therefore, dominate society.

David Duke, a white nationalist, politician, antisemitic conspiracy theorist, Holocaust denier, convicted felon, and former Imperial Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan (Source Wikipedia) made himself very clear.

“We are determined to take our country back,” Duke said from the rally, calling it a “turning point.” “We are going to fulfill the promises of Donald Trump. That’s what we believed in. That’s why we voted for Donald Trump, because he said he’s going to take our country back.”

Being a nationalist. That’s not really bad, is it? I mean doesn’t it come from the word NATION? Perhaps it means even caring about the nation?

Nope! That would be patriotism. The difference is relatively simple. But Orwell makes it clear that nationalism has nothing to do with nationhood or caring for a nation.

George Orwell, in his essay “Notes on Nationalism”


Nationalism is not to be confused with patriotism. Both words are normally used in so vague a way that any definition is liable to be challenged, but one must draw a distinction between them, since two different and even opposing ideas are involved.

By ‘patriotism’ I mean devotion to a particular place and a particular way of life, which one believes to be the best in the world but has no wish to force on other people. Patriotism is of its nature defensive, both militarily and culturally.

Nationalism, on the other hand, is inseparable from the desire for power. The abiding purpose of every nationalist is to secure more power and more prestige, not for himself but for the nation or other unit in which he has chosen to sink his own individuality.

Power, of course, that’s what it’s all about. White power taking the country back from everybody who is not white I assume. Attacking the Jews, that’s a given -same old, same old.

The city of Charlottesville declared the State of Emergency, the mayor asked them to leave, told them they weren’t welcomed there.

As for the White House, Trump condemned the “Egregious display of hatred, bigotry, and violence on many sides — on many sides.” There it was, his one chance to distance himself but he didn’t.

“The daily stormer” an American neo-Nazi and white supremacist news and commentary website is grateful, “When asked to condemn, he just walked out of the room. Really, really good. God bless him.” 

How does it feel to be a Trump voter and supporter now? This is what you voted for, what Republicans stand for from now on -if they don’t distance themselves.

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  1. National Socialism (German: Nationalsozialismus), more commonly known as Nazism (/ˈnɑːtsɪzəm, ˈnæ-/[1]), is the ideology and set of practices associated with the 20th-century German Nazi Party, Nazi Germany, and other far-right groups. Sometimes characterised as a form of fascism that incorporates scientific racism and antisemitism, Nazism’s development was influenced by German nationalism (especially Pan-Germanism), the Völkisch movement and the anti-communist Freikorps paramilitary groups that emerged during the Weimar Republic after Germany’s defeat in First World War.

    The above definition came from Wikipedia. My search for a definition of the term was inspired by this post. In my search, a link also came up to a site called conservapedia, which I have not copied because, based on its expansion of the term which also noted, in their opinion, I suppose, that , in its final popular form (Nazism) it bore more resemblance to communism, especially since Karl Marx was also anti-Semitic.

    Now that Bannon is no longer part of the Administration, I guess we can hope that Jared and Ivanka, along with “the Generals” may exercise more influence and move it closer to the center. Of course, I will then watch with intense interest to see how they juggle support for Israel in this mix.


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  3. Trump has boxed himself into a corner. He can’t condemn the people who voted for him and are still his strongest supporters, so he uses mealy-mouthed words and leaves others to ‘clarify’ what he meant. To an observer from across the pond, this has been a long time in the making. It predates Trump, but he used it to get himself elected and has opened the box to let them out. There are parallels with what happened here during our referendum campaign and has continued since – a strand of latent racism that was being kept in check is now somehow ‘legitimised’ by politicians. Charlottesville was horrible, but I fear this won’t be the last time this happens.

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    • I watch Europe very closely and I am shocked about the uprising of racism in Great Britain but I hate to say it, it’s harmless overseas compared to here.

      I fear it’s only the beginning, it will get a lot worse before we will begin to heal.

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      • You’re right, our racists are a pathetic bunch of idiots with none of the organisation that yours have. It’s a very sad situation, not helped by a so-called President who pours petrol onto the fire.


  4. I cannot begin to tell you how disturbed, distraught, disbelieving I am of what I saw on TV- what I heard, the vile words said, that 45 did nothing to denounce the neo nazis, the white supremacists – it is terrifying and unbelievable- and I keep waiting and wondering where are the voices of reason, when will they speak up and take hold and stop this madness

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  6. So this is what the end of things looks like. Funny. I thought there’d be more noise… I can tell you it makes me ashamed to be a white person. Because to ME exclusivity thinking like they displayed is the way to attrition. How ugly.

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  7. What happened yesterday in Charlotteville is horrifying … American fighting American. Literally.

    I should however point out that Nationalism in Canada means something very different. Nationalism means one country – not 10 provinces (and 2 territories). There is often conflict within our country between provinces – Quebec in the past, Alberta most recently. There are many people who believe the interests of their province are more important than the interests of the entire country … case in the point is the famous saying out of Alberta during the national energy debate in the 1980s ‘let the Eastern bastards freeze in the dark’.
    Nationalists believe that the sum of all provinces is what makes us a stronger and better country and that the individual interests of the provinces should not supersede the interests of the whole.

    I am a Nationalist.

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